Small screw driver

[woodone]

Anyone know where to get a GOOD small Phillips screw driver? I need a good #0000 Phillips for working on N scale Shays.
The ones that I have been able to find were much to thick at point of the driver.
Needs to have a small shaft too. Getting the screw off that holds the couplers on is a real pain. The screw is hidden part way under the trucks.
Thanks in advance

[dcswift]

I have had good luck buying watch maker's tools off fee-bay. You might try there.

[Boiler-man]

Try Micro Mark Tools

[BryanC]

You might also try Micro-Mark:
http://www.micromark.com/SearchResul...se=screwdriver

[MetroRedLn]

My local 99-cent store has a jeweller's screwdriver set for a buck!

[16marvigj]

I picked a whole set of small screw drivers at Home Depot for about $5! It works on my small cars and engines!

[roverich]

Either micro-mark or www.mcmastercarr.com ....I got a set of 7 precision tweezers from them for 27 dollars ....

[woodone]

Thanks for all of the replies.
I have tried most of the ones you have suggested and they are too large.
I have not looked at E-bay for watch makers tools, so will give that a try.
I have found several #0000's but the tips were not ground to a fine enough point to fit the small screws used in the N scale Shays. Will look at Mc Master-Carr too.
Have you ever looked at the small size of the screws on a N scale Shay?
These screws are very small, and have a very fine slot for the driver to fit into.
I am sure the manufacture must have something to work on these with.
I just have not had any luck in finding them.
Thanks for you sugggestions.

[Bigsparky65]

I use the Stanley small set of screw drivers from Wal Mart.



Sparky(Jeff)

[Bryan]

One wonders if they are not Frearson rather than Phillips?
Note the tip difference for the same size head.

http://www.sizes.com/tools/images/Frearphp.gif

[woodone]

One wonders if they are not Frearson rather than Phillips?
Note the tip difference for the same size head.

http://www.sizes.com/tools/images/Frearphp.gif

Thanks Bryan.
That looks to be the type used in the N scale Shays.
I had never heard of the Frearson screws before. Now to find a driver for them.
Thanks again.
I am off to search for a Frearson screw driver.

[rpcelect]

If you have a Home Depot nearby, go to the tool section and look for this little micro tool kit:



http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardw...atalogId=10053

I have about 5 of these sets because so many hobbies of mine need small screwdrivers and these are really top notch! You get a full set of micro phillips, flathead, torx, square and a few other special tips.

[Las Vegas UP]

I have a set of jewer's screwdrivers. Six come in the set, and they fit just about anywhere.

[woodone]

rpcilect.
Looks to be a nice set of screw drivers. The set has only a #1 and a #0 Phillips. Too big.
The problem is as Bryon has pointed out, is these small screws in the N scale Shay are NOT Phillips. They are more than likely the Frearson or Japanese standard.
The screws will be in the#0000 class if you compare them to the Phillips.

Las Vegas UP.
I have several of these sets of these. All of them are way too large. Most of the sets come with at #1 and a #0 Phillips and these are much too large.
Thanks for all the help.
I am now looking for a small Frearson type driver.

[Bryan]

If it helps;
Frearson drives are also known as ANSI Type II.
Frearson are a 73° included angle.
Phillips are a 123° included angle.

[Gen]

Down at the bottom of this page:

http://www.ehobbytools.com/contents/en-us/d3.html



Precision Screw Driver 6 Piece Set All Phillips

20880






This 6 piece set contains 6 phillips screw drivers 0000, 000, 00, 0, 1 and 1.5. Each screw driver has a swivel top that is perfect for those small jobs or working on trains, slot cars, model airplanes, miniatures or doll houses. Comes in a plastic case

[woodone]

Thanks Gen.
At least the set you have found has a #0000 Phillips. Most don't.
Still not sure it will work.
Might be a nice addition to the tool box. I am a tool freak any way

[ranulf]

I don't know if any of these are what you need, but here's a couple sources for watchmaker's screwdrivers:

http://www.esslinger.com/screwdrivers-1.aspx

http://www.findingking.com/c-2914-wa...ewdrivers.aspx

[quietstorm]

I think the watchmakers screwdriver might work better than the #00 i have. It wont even come close to breaking the screw loose on my atlas geep.

[16marvigj]

If you have a Home Depot nearby, go to the tool section and look for this little micro tool kit:


http://www.homedepot.com/Tools-Hardw...atalogId=10053

I have about 5 of these sets because so many hobbies of mine need small screwdrivers and these are really top notch! You get a full set of micro phillips, flathead, torx, square and a few other special tips.

Yes, that would be similar to what I got!