Need Help/Tips With Painting Loco From AL TO EL

[CodyO]

I recently started Changing my Layout from UP,SF,AL to PRR,ERIE,EL
Along the way i wanted to change My Alaska F-9`s to Erie Lackawanna F-9`s(EL never owned F-9`s but due to money limits they will)
But then i found out EL has a HARD paint scheme to do in N Scale Even with Microscale N 60-0016 Erie Lackawanna Diesels (1960-76) Due to the red strip I need to paint so i would like some tips for Painting this red strip
The strip can be seen in Picture 4
The other 3 are of the Alaska Engine

Thanks in advance,
Cody Orr

[subwayaz]

You might want to check with microscale for the stripe also. They have sheet os stripes in lots of colors these days.
Just for a thought

Or paint your basic color then use that Blue masking tape to help with the stripe painting. I found that tape to be quite flexible, seals well, and comes off without hurting the rest of the paint

[CodyO]

You might want to check with microscale for the stripe also. They have sheet os stripes in lots of colors these days.
Just for a thought

Or paint your basic color then use that Blue masking tape to help with the stripe painting. I found that tape to be quite flexible, seals well, and comes off without hurting the rest of the paint

Yea after i posted this i figured i would do that but what exactly is there color is it something werid like PRR`s Tuscan Red

[roverich]

Hey Cody , Have you looked at the wathers catalog for the color you need ? They list a lot of different paint colors ...Floquil has some railroad colors also in the catalog ..

[subwayaz]

Yea after i posted this i figured i would do that but what exactly is there color is it something werid like PRR`s Tuscan Red

They have all different color stripes to choose from; the stripes are also different sizes if I'm not mistaken on each sheet. Just goto Microscale site and browse through the products find your number desired and you can goto MB Klein and order just what you want. Microscale has a minimum order that is $21. But MBK doesn't

[brokemoto]

What you do is something called 'sealing'. You paint the locomotive its base coat of grey. You then mask off most of the locomotive, but leave exposed the part where the stripe goes. You apply the grey again, mostly over the tape, especially at the edge of the tape/where the stripe begins, but also on the area where the stripe will appear. Allow to dry thoroughly. Paint your stripe. Allow to dry thoroughly. Remove tape. If you have a little bleeding (it will happen, on occasion, but it will be extremely minimal, if at all), you can usually touch it up with a very small brush. The stripe color should be the color that bleeds, so touch up with grey. Do this under a magnifying lamp. Do the same for the yellow fronts. You can buy the thin yellow border striping, which can also cover up any bleeding, if there is any. You should apply the yellow stripes in sections, as trying to apply so thin a stripe to the entire locomotive can be difficult.

I seem to recall that MicroScale sold decal sets for Delay, Linger and Wait diseasels that included the stripes. The Erie-Lackamoney striping colors are the same. Lackawanna cab diseasels used that striping scheme, but I forget if their road switchers did. The stripes on the DLW E-8s are narrow enough to use on E-L road switchers. You can use the Delay, Linger and Wait stripes and apply the Erie-Lackamoney road name onto the stripes. It may take some time to complete the job, but anything worth doing properly does take time.

Now you see why railroads do patch jobs and dip jobs. Fancy paint schemes do look nice, but they cost too much money and require too much down time. Fancy paint schemes cut into profits which reduce dividends. If the stockholders do not get paid, the directors and officers get voted out of a job.


In the case of Erie-Lackamoney, I wonder if the stockholders ever got paid; hence its derogatory name.

[CodyO]

What you do is something called 'sealing'. You paint the locomotive its base coat of grey. You then mask off most of the locomotive, but leave exposed the part where the stripe goes. You apply the grey again, mostly over the tape, especially at the edge of the tape/where the stripe begins, but also on the area where the stripe will appear. Allow to dry thoroughly. Paint your stripe. Allow to dry thoroughly. Remove tape. If you have a little bleeding (it will happen, on occasion, but it will be extremely minimal, if at all), you can usually touch it up with a very small brush. The stripe color should be the color that bleeds, so touch up with grey. Do this under a magnifying lamp. Do the same for the yellow fronts. You can buy the thin yellow border striping, which can also cover up any bleeding, if there is any. You should apply the yellow stripes in sections, as trying to apply so thin a stripe to the entire locomotive can be difficult.

I seem to recall that MicroScale sold decal sets for Delay, Linger and Wait diseasels that included the stripes. The Erie-Lackamoney striping colors are the same. Lackawanna cab diseasels used that striping scheme, but I forget if their road switchers did. The stripes on the DLW E-8s are narrow enough to use on E-L road switchers. You can use the Delay, Linger and Wait stripes and apply the Erie-Lackamoney road name onto the stripes. It may take some time to complete the job, but anything worth doing properly does take time.

Now you see why railroads do patch jobs and dip jobs. Fancy paint schemes do look nice, but they cost too much money and require too much down time. Fancy paint schemes cut into profits which reduce dividends. If the stockholders do not get paid, the directors and officers get voted out of a job.


In the case of Erie-Lackamoney, I wonder if the stockholders ever got paid; hence its derogatory name.

I painted it base gray and im buying microscale decals i left the back ot the loco yellow the only thing i dislike about microscale is the amount you have to buy ill have more strips then i need and i have to buy $20 worth of decals to finish my SF,UP,AL to PRR,EL converisons
So far 3 engines painted and 2 shells on the way
With another engine getting fixed

[ns4ever]

I had this problem a while ago, with the sheer cost of decals. I already had a photo printer, all I needed to buy was some decal paper and some fixing agent and, with a little help from MS paint, have been making my own ever since. This might be cheaper for you if you have access to a printer

andy

[Thomas Locomotive]

If this hasn't been mentioned already you might want to try the link
http://erielackhs.org/ .

I once lived not far from EL's EX-ERIE B.& SW.RR,NEE-B.& J RR division. On this division of the ERIE,EL I saw SW'S to Alco's on the this division until mid 1975 What's left of The B.&SW. division is now the BUFFALO SOUTHERN RR to Gowanda,NY then from there it's the N.Y. & L.E. RR. I also railfanned the ERIE NEE-A.& GW.RR EX-N.Y.P.& O.RR from Salamanca,NY, Jamestown,NY to Meadville,PA when I visited my Grandmother ,Aunt and Uncle in Jamestown,NY.

[SecretWeapon]

Microscale #'s are:
60-16 & 60-573 I believe. As said the 1 set has all the stripes. I used them on most of my EL eninges. I liked the colors better of the decals. So I redid all my SD-45's,GP-35's,E-8's & my heritage fleet. They can be seen over at Railimages. Thats the photo area of Trainboard.
Here's Microscale's website:

http://www.microscale.com/

[CodyO]

Thanks i placed an order for those decals!
And i live near where the Erie R.R. took off a guys arm in Hughestown P.A. causing the Erie R.R. Vs. Tompkins court case